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S2 E2 with Molly & Micah

Updated: Jan 20

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Molly: All right, so welcome to any other, anythings. Um, let's see. We are here today with Micah, who will be taking over hosting responsibilities. So starting. With Ooh. Um, starting with just a general intro, Micah, welcome. Tell us about yourself, the roles you've held within Grey Box Collective and yeah, any kind of intro you wanna add in

Micah: Cool. Yeah, sounds good. Um, hey, yeah, I'm super happy to be here. I, man, I should have looked this up. I started with Grey Box. I wanna say 2015, is that right? Molly? Might have been a little later.

Molly: I think it's 2017

Micah: okay. That sounds right. Thank goodness. All right, so, uh, obviously I'm not great with numbers, but started off as just a collaborator.

Um, a fellow performer, uh, knew about Grey Box and that's how I got kind of introduced and, um, auditioned with them. And I was lucky enough to be able to be a part of the experience, which was honestly, So fantastic. Um, I believe that project was understanding otherness, um, which was so much fun. Um, and then, uh, subsequent to that, um, continued to perform in other venues in my life and areas in my life.

Uh, pandemic hit and then we did, uh, pause together, um, online, which was. Quite a unique experience. I got to mess around with some video editing, uh, for those projects, um, which was a lot of fun. Something that I didn't know I had a passion for, but I do, which was a lot of, uh, it was exciting to explore further.

Um, but yeah, I, I really have enjoyed, uh, that experience. I do miss, um, some of the actual interactions that you have. You know, actually moving and actually interacting with other, um, you know, artists in a given space, in a shared space. Um, so that's probably what I miss the most. But I'm up in Canada now, so, uh, the terrain's a little bit different.

Um, but I'm still super happy to be a part of the whole process in the endeavor. Um, so yeah.

Molly: Yeah. Very cool. Thank you. Um, we'll circle back to some of the like creative process stuff in a moment. Um, but I was wondering if you'd like to either offer some kind of like warmup or like a resourcing grounding activity that uh, it can be something we've done before in rehearsal or that you just have in rehearsal mm-hmm.

or that you just have in a personal practice as a way to center, um, taking care of ourselves.

Micah: Yeah, sure. Um, man, I feel like the one that's coming to mind right now that I know I was introduced through, uh, through Grey Box Collective, um, was the Rose Bud Thorn. Um, that where we talk about something that's, you know, really good, really exciting.

That's our rose, um, and mine right now. Uh, Oh, what is mine right now? I think I'm getting more and more, uh, back to working fully in the arts again. Um, obviously during the pandemic I had to find other means of, uh, sustainability, just cause all of the live arts got shut down for the most part, minus Grey Box Collective.

So, huge shout out. Um, uh, but yeah, I, I'm slowly making my way back to being able to. Find work in the arts, um, that is able to support me again. So I'm on the cusp of, uh, that kind of tipping back in that direction. Uh, my, I guess that's also a bud I guess if it's something, uh, that I'm looking forward to.

But I, I am, uh, super. Also looking forward to getting a car tomorrow. Me and my partner bought a car and we're picking it up tomorrow, so that's exciting. That's fun, exciting. Um, and then I think my thorn, I started therapy recently. Um, yeah. Um, my thorn has been like, and it's good, but like, just really kind of understanding.

How I, how my brain works really. I have, I'm very introspective and I have a lot of things that I think I know about myself. Um, but sometimes you need a professional opinion, to kind of help you, like kind of grab it. Cause sometimes I get very outlandish and make really grandiose assumptions, uh, and maybe pull things out of proportion, which is really, uh, it's been a really good reentering.

Um, but it's also helped me acknowledge the, the core, um, kind of. Uh, things that I need to kind of focus my energy towards so that I can actually continue to, to, uh, heal. Uh, so yeah, it's been, it's been a lovely but, uh, pain in my side experience , but it's good. It's been good.

Molly: Cool. Wonderful. Thank you for sharing.

Um, so I'm curious with that in mind, um, thinking about. Introspection or like contemplative practices. I feel like that's definitely something that we have to kind of deal with in the work that we create. Um, and I think back to like understanding otherness was, I think during the talk back I was like, I never wanna revisit this any time ever again.

Yet here we are going into season seven.

I'm like, Ooh, it's coming back. Yeah. Um, but thinking about. That contemplative practice in a rehearsal setting or in a creative practice, um, or that energy focus, um, is there, are there things that have, um, kind of mirrored themselves at all or set a foundation in some way or sparked something?

Micah: Sure. I, I think the thematic side of understanding otherness has really just exploded very slowly, but I guess blossomed over the course of the last few years. I think the pandemic in a really interesting way, has shaken up a lot of, especially the arts industry. We see where the gaps are because all we have to do in those moments are to reflect.

Um, so then we kind of see where we, uh, did maybe marginalize unintentionally, sometimes maybe intentionally in other issues or other, um, instances. But, uh, yeah, there's a lot of really, uh, good work and intention, I think presently going into. What it truly means to understand someone else and what it actually means to, uh, to, uh, include them in a way that's not checking a box, but it's actually understanding.

Um, and, and turning that introspection into empathy, I think is the biggest, uh, is the biggest shift that that. Ultimately is sometimes happening, but what we all are, I think is slowly working towards, specifically as artists. Um, and hopefully that trickles into the rest of our society, um, which I think is inevitable over the course of time.

Uh, so yeah, I would say that.

Molly: Yeah, definitely. Definitely. Um, and as you said, like kind of the pandemic is. My therapist would talk about, like, we've all had to stew in our own juices during this time, and that's why so much is coming up for people, um, along with like, you know, the world. Um, but that kind of being, um, combined and thinking of like you were part of understanding otherness, pre pandemic 2017, we, you know, I don't wanna say the good old days by any means.

Yeah. You know, several years ago, and then, um, as you went through like the postcard performance series, that was when like the pandemic was kind of fresh still. Yeah. Um, and then pause was when we kind of thought we were emerging from it, but like we kind of didn't. And now here we go again. And like really, I think, emerging this time.

Um, and so thinking of those very distinct, um, periods of time, How has your, your creative process, like what have been some threads for all of that? Um, or, or has it had to like shift and adjust and adapt for, for all those different times?

Micah: Yeah. Um, interestingly enough, and I think this is, uh, resonating in just about every aspect of my artistic career presently, is, um,

Pre pandemic in our first project together. Um, and in that time in my life, uh, was very much so a, uh, like a performer first, that that made sense where, um, I was, I'm still very much a collaborator in the sense of like, I'm always looking to, uh, help build upon the stories and ideas and, uh, you know, beauties, uh, that other people have kind of started to.

Breathe into fruition. Um, and I, I really do love that experience and I love like taking something that someone started building on top of it, maybe flipping it on its head and saying like, oh, what about if we, you know, do this or. I, I like to work in opposites a lot where I, I see something and I see a given circumstance and I'm like, well, what's the complete reverse of that?

And how would that feel? Or how would that move, how would that, uh, feel? Uh, so yeah, as time has shifted forward, and I think a lot of it, not a lot of it, but a good portion of it, um, ended up being because of, uh, the, the shift in the world Climate , um, I ended up planning myself having to shift away from waiting for someone else to start something, to being a part of the actual seeding.

Um, so I, I typically am. Considered myself someone who would water something and help it grow. Um, whereas lately it's been, uh, I've been constantly planting seeds lately and, um, uh, really kind of even really getting in there and digging up the dirt. That's what happened a lot of the times with these, uh, these last two, the postcard and the pause project where we really did kind of like come.

Uh, with a blank slate and said, all right, let's create something. And I found myself kind of, uh, I don't wanna say thrust into leadership perhaps, but definitely thrust into, uh, uh, Being a catalyst, uh, for these sorts of interactions and, uh, really trying to move the earth a little bit, uh, which was a lot of fun.

Uh, it was, uh, a growing pain, I think for me, which is, and not in a bad way, it's like that good kind of pain where it's like, oh man, like this is a little uncomfortable. It's maybe outside of what I normally do. Um, but I did find, uh, a lot of fulfillment. And even now as I'm continuing to, uh, re-shift my career back into the arts full time, I'm finding that it's a lot of, okay, these ideas, let's plant these seeds and let's actually, like, I find myself doing more of those initial steps of like planting, digging, watering a little bit and kind of really, um, Coming in earlier in the process than what I was used to, uh, which is, yeah, again, just a very, uh, unique experience that I'm, uh, humbled by.

Uh, maybe a little intimidated by sometimes, but overall, it's, it's been, uh, a shift in the creation, uh, timeline, I guess. Like just where I kind of step into the process, which has been, uh, a lot of fun. Mm.

Molly: Very cool. I I love that like, journey and just the moving of the earth and the digging and the planting seeds.

Yeah. Um, I'm, I'm curious cuz you've talked about like you're shifting into the arts full time as well as like shift. So there's a lot of shifting, um, right. Um, the shifting into the arts full time, the shifting into stepping into that creative process earlier on. Was there like a moment that kind of sparked this, or was it just as you're reflecting now you're like, oh, I guess there's like a lot of shift happening.

Micah: Yeah, yeah. I've always been in, uh, I've, my mom calls me out, I'm a people pleaser. Um, and, uh, I think part of, well, not part of that, I think the missing element of the fact that I'm a people pleaser. That really what I like to do is fill in the gaps. I'm not a big, I'm not one to step on anyone's toes or, you know, take over if somebody's already doing a job that, you know, regardless of how I think I could do it or what my thoughts are on it, I, that's, that's why I like to consider myself a collaborator cuz it's not necessarily me changing something that someone else is doing.

It's more so how can I add to this experience? Um, which is why I've been comfortable coming in. A little bit later in the process as an actor, as a mover, as a performer, um, versus a creator or director or something along the like, pre-production side of things, which is where I'm finding myself shifting into now.

Um, It's funny cuz that when I remember when I graduated high school, I was like, dad, I wanna be a director. When I grew up I was like, oh, that's so great. Like, I've never seen you so sure of something. And then I just performed for the next 10 years. Um, which is not a bad thing. It's not a bad thing at all, but like it's funny that that's kind of come back to the forefront of mine where it really is a lot more of that.

And, um, what I've found is, uh, in the postcard series, uh, particularly, Like, obviously I think we're all very generous givers. Um, and, uh, I, I think as performers, our natural inclinations to look for direction, like, who's gonna tell me what to do? Who's gonna tell me where to go? Who's gonna tell me how to move?

Um, and, uh, there's a lot of just, uh, questions, um, versus. One thing, I'm actually working with a Shakespeare company as well right now, and, uh, one of the things that I love that they say in their rehearsal space is, Hey, here's an offer. Um, and I, I really love that language because, um, it's not saying like, you have to do this.

Um, but it's also, it's also very inviting and it's like you can still choose to accept or reject this offer, but this is something that I think could spur us along in a given direction. Um, and I. Through these last two, um, projects that I've done with Grey Collective, I've been able to, uh, give offers.

They've stuck. Um, and it's been really cool to watch those, um, uh, those seeds that were planted, like kind of blossom into these, you know, beautiful big works that we've been able to collaborate on, uh, as a, as a group, as a team, uh, of artists and. Yeah, I, I just, I, I really love that one. It came full circle from back when I was a kid, and then two, like it was, it's nice that the pandemic provided more opportunities for me to, uh, step into that.

Dream, um, in a way that I felt comfortable where it was like, I'm not stepping on anyone's toes. I'm not asking to take this role from someone else or this opportunity from someone else. I'm simply filling a need, um, which has really kind of limited itself to, you know, this snowball effect of, of, uh, different opportunities coming forth.


Molly: Yeah that's, that's wonderful. And like the consensual language Yes. Of like offering in the space and being like, it's like consensual language with non-attachment of like, here's an offering and like, take it or leave it. I'm cool with it. Mm-hmm. I'm settled. Um, yeah. Cool. All right, so you had talked about like filling in gaps and adding to an experience and the offerings and I feel like.

That's where you started to shift into like the editing role for the films with first the postcard that you did with, um, the postcard, the four of them that you and Sarah and Adam did. Yeah. Um, and then stepped into that role again. Um, I'm curious. I cuz I think it just kind of like popped up like, oh, Micah's is gonna edit, and I was like, okay.

Um, Where, where did like the inclination or the impulse come from? Um, and then you said like, as you got into it, like you really enjoyed it. So what is it about all of that having shifted from the stage in live performance for a decade and now being like, I'm gonna go into, I don't know, iMovie, premiere, whatever.

Yeah. And start to like muck around with stuff.