Updated: Jan 20
Micah: All right. So, uh, yeah, we'll kick off the conversation. Um, welcome to another episode of Any Other Anythings.
Oh my goodness. I, I lost my, I lost my thing already. All right. Here we go. We'll start again in 2, 2, 1. . Uh, Cool. Welcome to another episode of Any Other Anythings. Um, I am here with Adam. Uh, we go way back. We've worked together on a couple, uh, Grey Box Collective, uh, projects.
It's honestly, So great to be reconnecting, even though we're literally on opposite sides of the country. Well, true. Technically in two different countries, but we don't have to go there. Um, , uh, yeah, I know. Yeah. Uh, Cause right, you're out in LA is that right, Adam? That's correct.
Adam: I'm out in, uh, Los Angeles working as a actor, artist. And then for you, again, remind me, where are you at?
Micah: We're, So, I'm in Ottawa. Um, my partner's up here. I moved up here during the pandemic. Uh, it's been, it's been an experience. The last few digital projects I've done with, uh, Grey Box Collective have been during my time up here. And, uh, it's been really cool, honestly, staying connected, uh, with the whole team creatively, um, as well as just honestly getting more involved somehow, which I, I love.
Micah: Um, so it's been, it's been really, it's been, uh, really invigorating to say the least. Love it. But yeah. Yeah, I'm, I'm excited to, Dive into a, a fun little evening conversation with you bud. Um, I wanted to kinda kick off by just, uh, I, um, I guess just by kind of checking in, seeing how we're feeling, seeing how we're doing.
Um, one of the questions that we like to kind of, uh, toss around the folks is like, if you had like a Grey Box collective or just a life, um, sort of check-in or grounding activity, Warm up or whatever, whether you're just entering or exiting a like creative space, Like what's one of your go-to's?
Adam: Yeah, so I always love a good, um, for me, I like to start off with any like, rehearsal process, just speaking.
I mean, when it comes to movement, that's not the best way to start. But at the same time, mentally preparing is such a huge thing for me. And so my body's then aware, uh, rosebud and thorns are more of like an end of practice kind of, uh, checkouts. But I do love starting off. The day or the rehearsal. So we see where everyone's temperature is, where everyone's coming from, the air, uh, their, their tone, you could say.
But if not that, then I do enjoy, um, you know, good old viewpoints. Just a classical view, game of viewpoints, of walking around, being aware of each other and just, uh, authentically reacting to the different dynamics around ourselves. It's, it's nice to see what each room full of different artists brings in and then what you create together.
Micah: Yeah, I love that. Okay, so for the listeners at home, or Honestly for me, cuz it's new to me, Viewpoints, run that down. I, I don't think I've heard of that one or maybe I haven't done that one.
Adam: Yeah, , um, uh, see this is where my college professor, Bonnie Erd would uh, be like, You don't remember this. So basically it's just you're being very spatially aware with each other.
You're moving in the space. And what we started with is, um, you start with walking first and then you can add different level, like height levels of being tall, medium, short. Um, then you affects your tempo and speed, and then everything is in coalition or working. As a mechanism with everyone else around you as well.
It's not meant to be giving a traditional, um, results or traditional, like in the sense of like theater making that the mainstream knows, but more of a being honest to what you're feeling and to the energies that are being shared in the space. It's the best way I could probably describe it. So, Intriguing could be three people doing the same thing in the row and matching each other until they break apart.
And then somewhere in their exploration they come back together. That's like an example of what viewpoints can do. Or they never reconnect again. They, they just go off on their own journeys. Yeah. Um, yeah. Yeah. For viewpoints. So, I'm gonna look real quick. who, who created, cuz it's really important.
Adam: I love that. The, the six view points? Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. , Mary over Lee. Yeah, over Lee, Mary Over and Wendell and Wendell Beaver. Okay. There you go. All right. Little homework, uh, for me as well. I love that.
Micah: Uh, that's awesome. Thanks for introducing that. Two things you said standing out on like how you like to kind of like really check in and, and kind of hone in, I think is, uh, you said, uh, something along the lines of like, you know, talking is one way to kind of really kind of acclimate yourself into the, uh, the rehearsal space.
And, um, I, I think you brought up a really cool point about. How it may not be what you would traditional think of doing, uh, you know, especially when it's something that's movement bound, like a lot of what you know, Grey Box Collective does. But, um, I really do love, uh, just the idea of like, it really is a full body experience and part of the body experience is what you say is what you see.
It's what you're giving and receiving. Not just how you're moving through the space. So, uh, I really appreciate like, um, that, that sort of approach to, um, even in movement, it's okay to speak, to warm yourself up to mentally prepare to. Uh, you know, kind of propel yourself into the capacity to move. That's, that's, yeah.
Adam: It, it's all part of the canvas. You know, As soon as you walk in, you meet these people, you're, we're already on a canvas. We're not, And then you're putting on the, the whatever it is you're gonna make, you know, you're just showing everyone's colors, paints, tools. Whatever that could be of used to, to create in that day, you know, and usually going into spaces.
I always try to remember good intentions. Everyone's here with good intentions and they speak from good, good, uh, origins. Never malicious, never trying to go after, because I. In my experience, I don't really work well with that. But then again, art could be created any kind of those energies too. Yeah, I mean, art isn't just limited to the good.
It's also the bad and the ugly and everything else. So yeah, that's, yeah, that's how I approach.
Micah: That's awesome. That's awesome. Um, yeah, there's a lot of truth to what you're saying there as far as like, you know, it's not always the most healthy spaces that art is created. Like sometimes it is done in.
Chaotic spaces in pretty, you know, atypical, like I know the artistic community for the most part, like looking at a grander scale. We are. I would say generally a pretty kind collective of people. We try to be really empathetic. I feel like that just naturally comes with being an artist. Um, but there are some spaces, whether it's, uh, your own space when you're creating for yourself or in your own space or, you know, maybe just some environments that, uh, maybe accompany or a group has created that they feel like they get more authentic reactions or, uh, authentic.
Pieces of art. Mm-hmm. from a more disruptive experience. And there is some truth to it. It's, it's the circle of life, right? Like, not everything that we experience in life is gonna be kind and accepting and inviting. But I think that's the interesting thing about Molly's, like trauma informed work, is that it recognizes, Hey, these messy bits of your life, we can still, uh, tap into that in a safe environment.
Which is a really cool, really cool kind of, um, shift. I agree. Yeah. For our check in. Oh, no, please, please.
Adam: I was just saying like with Molly's trauma formed approaches, I mean, I remember when, back from finger pain with grownups, which was 2013, 14, it was back in the day. Something that showed me like the merit to this is when I had a love relationship with the lamp during our show.
And you know, Molly said, Yes, And. And I think that really, uh, what's the word? It really hooked, hooked, it hooked me out to just want to be more part of this work because there's no wrong choice. There's no, no false choices. There's choices and the impacts are play out later on depending on how, how you want to incorporate it into the whole overall arc.
And you know, I just, it was such a great. Also a way to go into the heavier concept, like it's not that simple. Uh, where it was more conversational with the artists, conversational with the creators, and everyone was in each other's awareness of how we're processing this tough. Intimate topic, these things and how we are going to proceed forward and create while keeping ourselves healthy and, and, um, sane, you could say as well.
Uh, I never understood really the power of it until I did a show a few years ago, uh, outside of GBC. I was Saint Karina. I was playing one of my Chicano icons. Huge thing for me. And then afterwards I was. Distraught. My, my whole body, my mental was just in a whole rhythm and process for doing everything for, for like a few months nonstop.
And, and I was thinking about GBC and how did they process these big, uh, feelings and so, I had to go back to a lot where I learned from them to find my center again and to detach from that character development. So GBC knows they're doing when it comes to these tough issues and putting stuff in that mental, that's, that's a, that's a battle every time.
Every time. Yeah. Yeah.
Micah: Without a doubt. Without doubt. Yeah. Thank you for sharing. That's awesome. That's, uh, such a great kind of like realization and perspective to kinda have on. Sort of experience as an artist in these spaces. And obviously each environment yields its own practices and has its own, you know, unique pros and cons.
Um, but it's, it's really cool to be able to take some of the, you know, learned, uh, um, artistic practices from our experience with GBC into these other environments to sort of recenter refine and, and kind of step beyond, uh, the. The trauma from time to time. Uh, so yeah. That's awesome. That's awesome. Uh, so yeah, I wanted to, for our first little check in, just kind of, uh, I loved you mentioned the temperature gains.
I like that idea of just like kind of feeling like where, where we are temperature wise. Uh, I'll kind of. Let's you take the, take the lead. Uh, if you wanna like, check in, let us know where your temperature's at and how you're feeling.
Adam: Definitely. So for this one, we can get a little more detail. I'd say we can do a temperature check in of, uh, you know, which climate temperature, humidity, winds, um, any, any sort of weather factors that are included into this.
Uh, check in right now. You're more than welcome to do, um, right now. I am feeling about a good 76, you know, not too windy, not too humid either. Just a nice California beach, city coast Temperature, uh, from zero to 10, it's about a seven. However, I want to be in the snow, so I'm ready for winter to be here so that, that's how my temperature is projecting towards. So, yeah, .
Micah: I love that. The little, little internal forecast. Yeah, I'm, I'm here for that. That's great. Um, man. Yeah, I would say, uh, that I'm pretty, I'm pretty mild as well today. Mild mannered, like, I'd say it's a pretty, um, Like a light, lightly overcast, you know, where it's not like heavy like gray clouds, but just a nice light cloud, but it's still covering the whole sky.
I'd say probably around 71 myself. Like there we go. Really, really, really modest. Um, I think the clouds are there, just cuz you know, there's obviously the, the memory and the weight of the, the sadness that's passing, but it's also looking good ahead. Uh, honestly. Really, I feel like the skies are kind of clearing for me, just because it's been great just chatting with other artists and, um, kind of, uh, um, being able to enjoy what I'm doing.
Uh, even though it's a lot that I'm doing right now, I still enjoy it. And I think that that really, um, puts a, uh, uh, A positive silver lining just through it all. Um, so yeah, my whole sky is silver right now, which feels good. I like that. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. There you go. Yeah, we love it. Um, so cool. Yeah. I, uh, I, I kind of want to back, back step a little bit.
I know you mentioned about an earlier project that you worked on, and, uh, can you, uh, I guess just recap, like I know you've worked with Grey Box Collective and a number of project. Do you have one that like really stands out to you or that you would bring back if you wanted to or if you could rather, or like yeah, just an experience that you'd like to either revisit for the first time or like reimagine, um, in, in present time.
Adam: That's tough. That, that is tough. It's, I probably finger painting for grownups, honestly. Uh, there was so much exploration, so much. Uh, paint so much childlike wonder, really innocent, really, uh, honest to like ourselves at the time period being who we are. We were maturing to young adults and to like adults and just to be a kid on stage and have the kid energy, childlike energy to lead us to the space was quite refreshing.
And you know, they say kids are the best, best artists out there cuz they. Honestly authentic and that's how they engage throughout the whole world. And us as actors, we, we find that way to detach from that, but to like logically analyze and also, uh, re reanalyze. But to be in the moment, just to be honestly authentic.
It takes some practice once you get older it does. So definitely that one. And I would incorporate my violin or guitar again. Mm-hmm. and find interesting sounds. Not really pretty sounds, but more interesting sounds. Yeah. If not that, then, it's not that simple, but maybe a bigger bar venue. Cause yeah, that was, That was interesting.
Micah: Yeah. Yeah. It's not that simple. End of our, was really, really cool like concept as a whole, uh, to kind of disrupt what you would normally do in that sort of space, um, and kind of experience a live art. Yeah, that's really cool. Um, I also love, uh, uh, the, uh, the finger painting for grownups. I, I love that concept, that idea, because you have this, this ideology of like, You're doing something that's really childlike, really freeing.
Um, and I think there's, there's this really not strange but, uh, intriguing, um, draw as we get older to rediscover and re like immerse ourselves in things that we would do. As a child, um, I know for me, like I'm the oldest of seven, I grew up basically as a third parent and my partner literally calls me a baby all the time cause I do such childish things all the time.
And I think that's just an attempt sometimes for us to like, just kind of get back to that, whether we feel like we've lost some years of childhood cuz we felt like we had to mature quickly or if we just miss it because of. Things that we've had to endure as we've grown older and as we've grown more mature.
Um, like there's definitely, uh, a time to like have to face the music and, you know, deal with whatever it is that is pressing in our lives. But there's also space for us to